New rule for Saturday's picks - comments?

[HoopScoop]

Okay, I can see we are all picking similar picks. I want to institute a new rule that is similar to what ESPN uses in their Fantasy Leagues. This rule should get us to look at other players lower down on the list (of Hoopla! Points) - but who could have a potentially big game against an opponent.

What I will do is implement the "15-rule". Simply look at the latest update of stats and rank all players according to Hoopla! Points per game average. You can of course just do this through Interactive Stats. Take a look at the 15th ranked person on the list which turns out to be Jia Perkins using the stats I have online right now. Her score is 15.8 per game. And so the new rule will be that a team's starting lineup cannot have an Hoopla! average above 15.8. Or another way to put it - multiply 15.8 by 5 which is 79. Add up the Hoopla! Points per game average for each of your 5 member starting lineup. It cannot exceed 79 points.

Of course the score for the 15th ranked person may change a little bit from game to game, but probably not much. This rule should keep us from constantly loading up with the best players in the conference. And if you want to use someone like Crockrom or Welle who have very high Hoopla! scores, then you will have to pick someone else for your starting lineup that has a relatively low score so that you don't exceed 79 points (or whatever it is at that time).

Understand? Sound fair? I'll post an example next.

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[This message has been edited by HoopScoop (edited 01-10-2001).]

[HoopScoop]

Okay, say I'm using the new "15-rule" for Wednesday's game. This is how one would go about it. First off, I feel Welle will have a great game against KU at home. So I really want her on my team. But she comes at a big premium with a 23.0 Hoopla! Points per game average. To offset her really high average, I will decide to go with someone I think may be hot, but currently has a low Hoopla! average right now. That person is Roulier. Her current average is 8.0. So, now I have a pure guard and my post with 31.0 points of the 79 taken.

For a pure forward, Lassiter just looks too good not to take at home against Texas A&M. But she has a 22.2 average. Once again, on my last two picks I will have to pick someone with a low average to offset Lassiter. Okay, my total is now up to 53.2 and I can only "spend" 25.8 more on two more players.

I need two more from the guard and forward positions ( and they can be combo players ). To stay under the 25.8, I will decide to take Tracy Franklin (G/F) from Missouri at 13.1 and Kara Faulk (F) at 12.4. Combined they are 25.5 which is under the 25.8 I had to stay under. So, my starting lineup would be:

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Welle P 23.0
Lassiter F 22.2
Faulk F 12.4
Franklin G/F 13.1
Roulier G 8.0
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Total 78.7
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So I had to look at people who may have great games because of matchup or they are recently on a hot streak, yet they may have lower Hoopla! averages right now.

Make sense? I like this - this should make us all think a lot more, make it more challenging, and hopefully make it more fun.

Again, this will not be implemented until Saturday's games. And I will of course update the stats before Saturday's games so the 79.0 point total barrier may change a little.

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[Bevo]

Will there be a similar rule for the 'backup' team?

[HoopScoop]

Hmmmm. Good question. I don't know - what do people think?

Some possibilities are: have the 5 reserves also meet the same point total that the starters have to. Or a reserve cannot have more Hoopla! points on average than the person she is replacing.

I guess I would favor option #2 above. Because say, using my example above, that Roulier got hurt and I had Dales as my sub - then my 5 member team would have a total way above the allowed 79 points. And suddenly I have a real advantage over other teams simply because someone got injured. That doesn't seem too fair I guess. So lets say Roulier got injured, then I need to have a guard sub replace her that has no more than an 8 Hoopla! point average. Hopefully, though you would still have a lot of choices to pick from to replace Roulier.

Does that sound fair?

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[Bevo]

I like the "15-rule". It will diversify things and make it a bit more interesting. Also, I go for Option #2 in regard to the reserve team as well.

[mred]

I never really understood why we had to have reserves. When we were choosing players for an entire week it made more sense, because an injury could cause you to lose up to nearly two games worth of points for a player. Now, we're picking new players for each game, and the worst that could happen is having one player be unproductive, which won't hurt that much in the long run.

I think I probably feel this way because ISU has been relatively injury free, so from my perspective injuries are pretty rare. It's just my opinion, and if everyone else disagrees, that's ok.

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[HoopScoop]

Reserves will be rarely used. But injuries do happen (look at Texas) and rather than losing a lot of Hoopla! points if someone like, gasp, Welle, went down with an injury - why not have a reserve ready to take her place?

Do other people feel we should only have 5 on a team and if one goes down to injury - it's just tough luck?


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[Jennifer]

Well, I'm sure we'd all hate to see anyone have an injury, but they do happen...but what are the chances of your team having more than 1 injury? Maybe (to simplify things) we just pick one reserve with an "average" score in case anyone goes out? By picking someone average, you shouldn't have to worry so much about what position is getting replaced? Make sense?

[Jennifer]

OK, I want to edit my reply but it's not showing up yet---I'm assuming it's an aol thing (and I even cleared my history, reloaded a bunch of times, beat my computer, etc etc).
So assuming it shows up, in reference to my term "average"--to be more clear, we could put an upper bound on what the sub's HS score should be. For instance, right now Mandy Nightengale is at #15 with 15 pts, thus your team average can't average more than 15. We could say the sub's score shouldn't be more than 1 pt better (that's arbitrary), thus your sub could be Caton Hill or anyone below....
just a thought

[HoopScoop]

Makes sense. Having 5 reserves is definitely overkill. I was just proposing it so that a guard replaced a guard, etc. But making sure the one reserve does not exceed some Hoopla! point average threshold is a good idea. I like the idea you proposed Jennifer.

Any other thoughts? Do we go with Jennifer's idea?


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[swok34]

Ok, tell me if I have this right with the sub.

F - Hill, OU 15.6
F - Stephens, UT 16.1
P - Pierson, TTU 11.8
G - Caufield, OU 18.5
G - Taylor, ISU 12.5
AVG POINT total 14.9
Total Point total 74.5
Sub -(G) Nightingale, CU 15.0
Though, I wouldn't use Nightingale this week because Colorado only plays one conference game, that's also true for Baylor.
Just wondering if I have this figured right and what total average for the sub could I use based on my team?

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[HoopScoop]

Keep in mind, we will be picking twice a week now. So right now, you need to submit your starting 5 + 1 reserve for the Saturday - Sunday games. Then we will pick for next week's Tuesday-Wednesday games. That way we don't run into problems where one team plays twice and another just once.

Sometimes, there may only be 4 or 5 conference games to be played on Tues.-Wed. or on Sat.-Sun. In that case, just make sure you pick players from teams that are actually playing. But I'll make sure and remind everyone and check everyone's picks to make sure they do it right. This weekend, every Big 12 team is in action - so you can pick from all Big 12 players.

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